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    Default resistance to going off grid

    there is resistance to going off grid,
    people will say and do all kinds of things when you try,
    there are often lots of laws stopping you from going totally off grid,
    anyone that has tried it or at least planned it out well has seen that there are many blocks to you being a free off grid person.
    I found a cute video that shows why the resistance is in place
    part 1

    part 2


    here is a related video
    http://board.freedomainradio.com/blo...x-farmers.aspx

    so remember that going off grid has to be done careful so that others do not notice what you are doing.

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    I was trying to point out that there is resistance that need to be dealt with,
    not that it is nto possible,
    just more that you sometimes need to plan for it,

    property taxes are the biggest thing in the way for most people,
    but all kinds of regulations are annoying,
    there are ways around them,
    but you have to plan for it,
    just stay alert and know where you are in respect to others plans for you

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    Default First . . . .

    And most insidious, the hardest

    Is to go off-grid the prevailing

    Cognitive grid . . . . the one beaten into you

    Since the womb.

    The physical remainder is just a different sort of wiring

    And plumbing, as it were.

    A mere bagatelle.



    wódr̥

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    Wish I could thank all of these posts. In fact, I do thank you all.

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    I wanted to point you guys to a project that I was involved with in Wales http://lammas.org.uk/ It is not only off grid but has planning consent to boot. It was one hell of a battle and it went to the Welsh Assembly during the fight. Hope it helps some of you wanted to follow this path.
    Love and light
    Charlie xx

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    Going off the grid does not need to meet with resistance. Two of us lived in this house for 7 years totally off the grid. The solar modules were capable of 700 watts and charged deep cycle lead-acid batteries. On cloudy days we had help from a 5000 watt Honda generator.

    The transition to off grid can be done gradually. It is possible to skip the solar modules initially and use a generator, inverter and batteries.

    An off grid system large enough to handle the wasteful life style of most Americans would be very expensive, so it is important to change life styles and select appropriate appliances.

    In my first off grid home:

    Heating was from a wood stove and direct vent propane heaters strategically placed in each bathroom (important). Another heater in the large bedroom was not really needed. The heaters did not require electricity.

    Water heating was done with propane not electricity.

    Cooking was done on a gas stove, not electric.

    The refrigerator was a high efficiency 12 cubic foot Sun Frost.

    There was no air conditioning or automatic dishwasher.

    The clothes dryer was heated with propane. An electric motor tumbled the clothes.

    Lights were fluorescent and turned off when not being used.

    Well water was pumped with a capacitor start (3 wire) pump. The 2 wire conventional pumps require too much surge current to work well except with large (expensive) systems.

    If going off grid with a small (relatively inexpensive) system is a goal then carefully select the appliances needed in an emergency and do not attempt to power the entire house.

    To easily change from a minimum system to a larger system, purchase sufficient batteries and a large enough inverter to handle the higher energy requirements. Solar panels can be added later.

    I am in my second solar powered home now, a small earth sheltered house. Solar electricity can be used for most appliances but grid supplied electricity is needed for some items.

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    I would like to think we could all live off grid if we choose to.
    At least we should all try to use less fossil fuels than we do at the present time.
    We will not have a choice in a few years, so, might as well ease into it slow and easy now.
    Maybe some compressed technology would benefit us all right now as well?

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